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  1. #1 BRAW not in NETFLIX Partnership Program 
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    With a pre-production effort on the way to join the NETFLIX partnership program, we are looking at using our URSA UMP G2 cameras to make the movie. It just make sense for us since we already have all the gear and BMD UMP G2 cameras. Upon reviewing the allowable requirements for using BMD UMP cameras (see link below), it does not have BRAW listed. Only CDNG and Pro-res. Well, we don't have CDNG on the G2 so we might settle on Pro-res. This is their latest update and I hope they will add BRAW in the list soon. I wonder if BMD has the word out to Netflix on their new BRAW codec.

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Ey32wczeMeuW_8

    If anyone here has any info on BRAW for Netflix, please chime in. Thanks!
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    Shoot in braw. Do what you need to do then transcode to prores
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    Quote Originally Posted by j_walk83 View Post
    Shoot in braw. Do what you need to do then transcode to prores
    That's not how Netflix works. They tell you exactly what camera, codec, etc you can use to shoot the movie that they are partnering with. Right now, you can only use the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6K and shoot in CDNG or Pro-res, specifically CDNG 3:1 or Prores XQ only (see the spec on the link). No transcoding permitted. In post, you can only transform to an ACES workflow using Resolve. We will shoot in Pro-res XQ. But it would have been nice if BRAW was in their list.
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    Then foook Netflix.

    On a serious note, I could see them add it in the future, it may help if people reach out to them about Braw, did you get in contact with someone from responsible departments at Netflix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stip View Post
    Then foook Netflix.

    On a serious note, I could see them add it in the future, it may help if people reach out to them about Braw, did you get in contact with someone from responsible departments at Netflix?
    I mentioned it to our project lead. This is our first encounter with Netflix so we are threading cautiously. If you are not using their partnering service and going through third party distribution channel, this does not apply.
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    When they began insisting on 4K they never balked at footage from the Alexa which at the time was 2.7K?? or something close. It's a guideline not an absolute. If you make some good film I think you'll be fine.
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    You may be reading into the display graphic too much.

    Here is a breakdown of requirements from their list. Notice the abbreviation "etc." after all the other raw formats. And if they are allowing XAVC in there, I'm sure they allow Braw or ProresRAW

    Capture Requirements:

    Capture Format
    RAW (Sony RAW, REDCODE, Arriraw etc.)
    COMPRESSED (XAVC, ProRes, or other I-Frame capable formats)
    Minimum of 16-bit Linear or 10-bit Log processing
    Minimum data-rate of Bitrate of 240 Mbps at 23.98 fps

    https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.c...-Image-Capture
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Harrington View Post
    When they began insisting on 4K they never balked at footage from the Alexa which at the time was 2.7K?? or something close. It's a guideline not an absolute. If you make some good film I think you'll be fine.
    There is a distinction between what Netflix will buy from a third party producer/distro (ie: pretty much anything their algos say there's an audience for) and what they require their original Netflix content to shoot. Usually the dividing line is this: if Netflix is giving you ANY money for production, then you play by their rules of codecs, cameras, resolution, etc. But if they're licensing an already completed production then shoot what you want.

    For the producer the difference is meaningful: one allows you to say "It's on Netflix", the other allows you to say "It's a Netflix original". And Netflix will usually push their original content into people's feeds/home page. Not to mention they're helping to foot the bill for actual production, which is no small thing in this world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithlango View Post
    Usually the dividing line is this: if Netflix is giving you ANY money for production, then you play by their rules of codecs, cameras, resolution, etc. But if they're licensing an already completed production then shoot what you want.
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    Hence what I said above if you read my earlier post. You can complete your film however you want in any camera or resolution, go through a distribution, and have Netflix pick up and license it from a distribution channel. The rules don't apply. Otherwise, if you are partnering with them (they give you money, people, and run the production), then the requirements apply - play by their rules. That's when the specific requirements like camera and format applies. BTW, for documentary, 80% of the capture has to be on the required camera and codec, 20% can be anything else. For non-fiction, 90% / 10% is the rule.
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    I wouldn't speculate, I'm sure if you get closer to production you'll be in contact with someone at Netflix. Perhaps prepare a test of ProRes vs Braw through their workflow and have them evaluate. There is a lot of slow adoption. Resolve is completely approved so I cant imagine not approving the codec that allows most flexibility. They might require q0 or c3, but who knows 4:1 cdng appears to have been accepted before.
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