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  1. #1 General Inquiry: Why do you want/need a cage? 
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    I've yet to actually need it on any shoot for my Micro or P4k. Is it me? I usually just pop top and bottom rails and outfit it with accessories, but I don't think I've ever stopped and said "I wish I had a cage." For the OG Pocket, absolutely. That thing was ridiculously tiny. Generally just curious, what are your reasons for having one? I also want to say this isn't a debate war, I'm just looking to see the upsides to owning one.
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    If you don't feel you need it, you might not. I've caged every camera I've had since the Pocket. Using it in any large professional capacity, even simple run-and-gun, a cage is massively useful for mount points, top handle, stability, etc. As a second or even primary cam, I need to run TC, XLRs, monitor mount, v-mount, follow focus, wireless reference, SSD....Doing that all without a cage is just...no...lol.

    Even simple handheld work, with a form-fitting cage like the Tilta tactical, it makes the camera feel a little more substantial. And stabilizing the mount with any sort of Metabones/viltrox is an absolute must in my eyes.

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    (This was a quick shoot where I wanted to throw the pocket on the C300 rig but you get the idea

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    Larger cameras may not need a cage at all. Smaller mirrorless cameras or BMMCC-like cameras usually have weak bodies, weak bottom thread hole, and need a cage to mount additional tools. Also some cages have special additional holes in front to fix Speedbooster. This allow to fix weak lens mount rotation when use follow focus.


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    I can imagine getting by without a cage on the P4K. They designed it to be somewhat ready out of the box.

    The micro without a cage? Uhhh.... Well I’d love to see this rig

    Upsides are you have a ton of options on where you can mount accessories, those attachments are more secure, it protects the camera, and it lets you mount things in a more compact way than by building linearly outward from the tripod hole.

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    The smallest version of my micro rig would not be possible without a cage.
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    For my Pocket 4k i need a cage for:

    - Secure the HDMI port
    - Mount a top handle with monitor (I don´t trust that one little screw on top)
    - I also can screw on some 15mm clams so i can attach rods directly to the cage.
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    It really depends...

    I just came back from shooting 3 weeks in Africa. High glossy 45min docu for Arte (German/French national TV).
    Besides a RED (not my decision), we had a P4k as B-cam, mostly on a gimbal, or a s A-cam for certain shots, especially in low light situations, where the Red can't go.

    I always try to keep the Pocket as pocket as possible (otherwise I could use one of my Ursas in the first place).
    Internal battery, Tentacle velcroed on top, C-Fast card, no cage or rig.

    And actually - I didn't really miss a cage during that 3 weeks of production.

    I can see the benefit though, if you need/want to rig additional stuff.
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    I use a cage on my P4K for the main purpose of securing the metabones adapter to the cage. It just feels much more secure and there's no more wiggle/play between the SB and P4K lens mount.
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    For a larger camera with SDI connections, no I would not use a cage. For a camera like the BMPCC4K, absolutely. Locking down the HDMI & USB connections is a must. It protects your connections, and it protects your footage. The cage itself also strengthens the camera's body with an exoskeleton that transforms a fragile feeling camera into a tank.
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    Is there a cage for the UMP at all? Never seen one in all the camera porn online.
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    Top handle (skateboarding, low moving angles) + better weight distribution for ronin s + attaching shotgun is easy + external monitor.
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