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    Quote Originally Posted by polaroid22 View Post
    What I noticed with my pocket 4K footage is that the motion looks very videolike. Allthough I was shooting 24fps 180 shutter angle(I figured I accidently shot 50fps or something, but checked the details all 24fps). Now I have not rendered the video yet, but only watched it in resolve.
    Has anybody noticed the same(is this a pocket 4K thing)?
    Possible to see a sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aliochaaliocha View Post
    @TravisA i think you re a troll,
    This is a friendly board, no need for this, ok.
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    Thanks, stip. Not a troll--just voicing an opinion on the general discourse.

    You're right, though, it is off topic, apologies.
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    George Miller is always on-topic, if you can't get that piss right off.

    Excuse me, I meant that'll do pig that'll do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeranSimpson View Post
    Possible to see a sample?
    Yeah If I got time tonight, I will render something(also good test for me, as it might be due to resolve playback or something, as I have not checked any renders). Have not used the pocket 4K so far really(beside some vacation shots of my baby girl) where the ursa mini pro is too much a hassle to tag along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aliochaaliocha View Post
    Hi,

    sorry if that topics have been already discuss tons of times, but i really don't find a perfect solution to my question.

    If i'm refering to maybe footage I saw (on vimeo/youtube but also in Film Festival and everywhere), i can really say i feel:
    - these cameras are really cinematic: RED/ALEXA/ AJA CION /URSA / BMCC/ BMPC4K (blackmagic production camera)/ / Sony F5 / Sony Venice / Digital bolex
    - these camera feel always like video: all DSLRs / Sony FS5 / Canon C100/C200/ EVA Panasonic and even the BMPCC4K

    I don't really understand why !
    I mean, i don't talk about global shutter, colors (which can be matched even if never as good as the good cinematic sensor) and neither about DOF (i have the same feeling with a high DOF on a cinema camera). I think the main thing is about sharpness.

    My question is: is that possible to get a truely cinematic feeling with the BMPCC4K ?
    Bmpcc4K is just a super GH5 (with good codecs) or is that an Ursa with a small sensor?

    The best footage i saw are with vintage lenses + diffusion filter such as Blackpromist, but that's not enough, i can say: that's a super video, but not cinematic. I don't know why. Please help me to get that feeling on a BMPCC4K, do i have to invest in a better diffusion filter like the Schneider TRUE-NET for instance? can you advice me ?
    In a nut shell, expectations.

    If you have an Arri camera on our shoot, it usually means there's some budget, and so therefore expectations are high. This then increases the overall production value of the shoot. So the camera is more an indication of the production values than the actual camera itself. If you can't produce cinema quality image from a Pocket 4k, it has WAY more to do with the environment it's being used in than the camera itself. After all, it's simply a tool. A very modern and capable one at that.
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    I've seen poorly shot film that looks like video. It's the user, not the camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asyndeton View Post
    I've seen poorly shot film that looks like video. It's the user, not the camera.
    Well, it's one part of the puzzle and like all others, it does matter to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asyndeton View Post
    I've seen poorly shot film that looks like video. It's the user, not the camera.
    True to some degree, but not absolute. If this were the case entirely it wouldn't matter what camera productions shot on and Arri wouldn't be the standard.
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    It's not the camera, and it hasn't been for several generations now.
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