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    Perhaps someone would compare the BMPCC to a Panasonic GH5s.

    As far as codec goes, noting in the BMPCC price range records in either cDNG or ProRes HQ, as far as grading and image retention.

    The GH5s can record DCI 4K though in AVC 10 bit 4:2:2 either Long GOP or all I frame. The GH5s has much better IQ compared to the GH5 in the examples I've seen (noted by a few online reviewers).
    Depending on the circumstances the GH5s might have lower noise in the shadows and, less rolling shutter skew. I'm not sure how the dynamic range would compare.
    Even if one is working in HD, the downsampling, the ability to reframe or stabilize might also give it an advantage in some cases.

    Although even the GH5s is two and half times the price of the BMPCC. It's about the only low cost competitor I can think of. It would be an interesting comparison.
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    I didn't mean to start a Pocket vs whatever camera argument. If you like the aesthetic you get from the camera, which I do, an it fits your production there is no reason not to use it unless specifically contracted to shoot and edit in 4K or above. I find too many filmmakers are chasing the next thing and are not actually making films. I was caught in that cycle for a long time, but the pocket finally reached my good enough point. That said my producer just bought the UMPro so really looking forward to playing with it, but I almost think it is overkill for the level we are at, we don't have the resources to properly emulate the Hollywood look, new camera is not going to fix that.
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    Here is what the GH5s can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHD5jEEguLM

    Here is what the Fuji X-H1 can do, using the Eterna film simulation and no color grading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcKd8HNqvc

    If the image quality of those cameras is so bad that your storytelling can't overcome it, no camera is going to help you.

    If you have special needs for a big budget project, then you have the budget for an Arri. In either case, a $2500 (or cheaper) camera should be more than sufficient now for anyone who has the ability to tell a story, light properly, and knows how to get good audio. The limitation is no longer the camera. The amount one would have to rig out a BMPCC to do this kind of work is going to wind up in a very similar ballpark to a rigged-out GH5s or X-H1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyger11 View Post
    Here is what the GH5s can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHD5jEEguLM

    Here is what the Fuji X-H1 can do, using the Eterna film simulation and no color grading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcKd8HNqvc

    If the image quality of those cameras is so bad that your storytelling can't overcome it, no camera is going to help you.

    If you have special needs for a big budget project, then you have the budget for an Arri. In either case, a $2500 (or cheaper) camera should be more than sufficient now for anyone who has the ability to tell a story, light properly, and knows how to get good audio. The limitation is no longer the camera. The amount one would have to rig out a BMPCC to do this kind of work is going to wind up in a very similar ballpark to a rigged-out GH5s or X-H1.
    don't forget to compare those DSLR promo clips with well graded BMMCC and Pocket Camera samples

    https://vimeo.com/250883189
    https://vimeo.com/180569734
    https://vimeo.com/109244789
    All my custom made accessories for BMMCC/BMMSC now available here https://lavky.com/radioproektor/
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    Quote Originally Posted by shijan View Post
    don't forget to compare those DSLR promo clips with well graded BMMCC and Pocket Camera samples

    https://vimeo.com/250883189
    https://vimeo.com/180569734
    https://vimeo.com/109244789
    Shijan thanks for sharing the samples. L’ÉCHAPPÉE SAUVAGE is gorgeous looking. Great example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shijan View Post
    don't forget to compare those DSLR promo clips with well graded BMMCC and Pocket Camera samples
    They weren't from DSLRs, both are mirrorless, and I figured everyone here has seen what the BMPCC can do, but those are still some damned fine samples.
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    Maybe in a few weeks we'll see that banner go up piece by piece...

    BM...PCC...II

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorBro View Post
    Maybe in a few weeks we'll see that banner go up piece by piece...

    BM...PCC...II

    Oh don't tease me like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dop16mm View Post
    I find too many filmmakers are chasing the next thing and are not actually making films. I was caught in that cycle for a long time, but the pocket finally reached my good enough point.
    This exactly mirrors my sentiments, well put.

    Also, someone mentioned the 'modern look' of recent cameras - I really don't like it, there's a plastic-ness about it that goes the opposite route than for example Alexa or, yes, Pocket.
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    I bought two pockets when they came out, found the workflow to be a little tricky way back then. fell back to dslrs for years then slowly got tired of the modern look. Made the decision to buy a micro instead of the obvious GH5 upgrade. I dont know if its a combination of tech now making workflow easier or im more patient with the final results but I am a lot happier now with my footage than I was when i was shooting with dslrs. Still waiting for a pocket or micro 2 announcement =)
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