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  1. #1 Tiffen Black Pro-Mist 1/4 and 1/8 
    I was looking into buying a tiffen black promist, either 1/4 or 1/8.
    I know each has their different looks and purposes but which one do you think you would purchase for all around type work. Just looking for peoples opinions and what not, thanks.
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    Funny, I asked this same question a month ago on DVXUser: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread...-video-samples. From looking at several different samples, it seems to depend on your sensor size. On S35 sensors like Red, even 1/8 looks a little strong sometimes (https://vimeo.com/124521528). On S16 sensors like the Digital Bolex, even 1/4 looks fine (https://vimeo.com/133916380).
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    Another factor to consider is the composition of the shot. For a wide shot that has practical lights or specular highlights you might use 1/8 or 1/4, as you get closer you'll likely want to increase the strength to preserve the look. David Mullen over on reduser has practically written a book on the subject. Good Luck.
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    My understanding is that it's less about the sensor size and more about the focal length/field of view. For example, an 85mm lens will require a much weaker strength than a 24mm because it's spreading the diffusion over a much smaller field of view.

    Correct me if I'm wrong--that's just my understanding.

    If you want an example of how each strength renders with a moderate wide and a medium telephoto on S35, here's a sample for you. https://vimeo.com/97712299
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    I would perhaps look at tiffen glimmerglass instead, much more subtle. I shoot with 1/2 all the time, and will be picking up a 1 asap.
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    Along with Glimmerglass, i'm a big fan of the Schneider Hollywood Blackmagic's and Tiffen Soft FX and Black Satin's. I like diffusion.
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    I agree it definitely depends on your lens and your sensor size. On my C100 and R1, 1/4 is great on pretty much all focal ranges. But last week when I ran my 1/4 on the BMPCC it became overwhelmingly strong when throwing an 85mm on there (w/ speedbooster). Personally for me I still love 1/4 strength for everything 135mm and below (crop factor included) and anything over that I'll probably stick to 1/8 unless going for a specific look or using it on only female talent.
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    These words of wisdom from David Mullen, in these threads, might be helpful:
    http://www.scarletuser.com/showthread.php?t=5941
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...sons-on-Red%29
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    I was interested in using diffusion filters to soften the image. I like the emerging atmosphere in the frame, softness, low contrast. The picture is perceived as if in a macro perspective, attention is now focused not on the small details, but on the image as a whole. While I watched the examples in the internet, I identified filters that I liked more: Glimmerglass 1, Black Satin 1 and Black Pro-Mist 1/4, which I purchased. On the video, a quick filter test, shot from a monopod without a head.

    Camera: BMPCC
    Lenses: Meopta Largor 12.5mm f/1.8, Meopta Openar 20mm f/1.8 (c-mount)
    Filters: B+W UV-IR Cut, Haida PROII-S Variable ND, Tiffen Black Pro-Mist 1/4
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    Video: http://newkidsart.ru/tiffen-black-pro-mist-1-4-test/









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    I'm right now torn between Hollywood Black Magic 1/4 OR Tiffen Black Satin--which does very nice things to highlights on skin. Anyone have experience? The decision is for an entire vampire feature.

    https://vimeo.com/155725769

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJacZa6QpJ8
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